[bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet Governance : Road to WSIS+20

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 08:44:15 EST 2018


Dear Renata,

Thanks for your comments and concerns, Renata, which as you know we take
seriously.

I am sorry if I misunderstood, but I recall two threads mentioning "CS
Meeting -  CSCG groups"
<http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00051.html>, but that
might have been me reading too much into it. And, as I said, I was not able
to attend the meeting, hence my lack of information what was discussed
there. But thanks for clarifying that.

Please note that the idea of the meeting and the discussion of the HLPDC
process was discussed in the bestbits list
<http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00023.html>. Important
to mention that the HLPDC meeting was organized between the ones who
demonstrated interest in following the discussions and the contribution was
an outcome of the meeting itself. Luckily we were also joined by the
Panel's Secretariat, as Jovan Kurbalija was kind enough to attend our
meeting and sort some doubts we had about the panel.

We nevertheless apologize if you feel this wasn’t done properly or with
adequate notice.

Best,
Bruna

Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 09:28, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Dear Bruna
>
> No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
> the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
> internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.
>
> No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
> know of this meeting.
>
> Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
> were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.
>
> As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
> identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
> with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
> rather limited group.
>
> Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
> governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
> have some sort of periodical check.
>
> That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
> once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
> time
>
> A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
> >
> > On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
> list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is
> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
> the meeting if its of interest.
> >
> > Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
> but I dont have any more details than this.
> >
> > I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
> FOC this week.
> >
> > Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
> >>
> >> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
> next year.
> >>
> >> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together is
> still open for comments too.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Certainly
> >>>
> >>> So lets have a meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
> >>>
> >>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Farzaneh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a
> civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was
> wondering what the outcome was?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>> Farzaneh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS
> Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading
> to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
> Internet Governance?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
> >>>>>>>> India.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
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> > --
> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >
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